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Never send money means never or sometimes ?

Postby Charlot on Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:14 pm

Hi All

I would appreciate an expert's advice here :)

Met a girl on a dating site. We has some video chats. She fell almost instantly in love. We agreed to meet in Poland, a couple weeks later. Why Poland ? Because she is working for some company and has a visa for Poland. So I went to Warsaw ; paid all expenses, hotel (a cheap one, booked by me) and restaurants. We also went to the grocery store and ate outside, in parks, so that was pretty cheap (it was in september). She told me "Charlie, in Russia women don't pay. Men are men, they have to do it". It should be noted that she took a plane from St Petersburg to Warsaw and paid for it some $400. She asked me to pay for the airfare, I told her it was difficult for me, but when she left I gave her $200 for the plane. Overall, the trip cost me some $800, but that's including my own ticket plane from London. We had a good time together, and we slept together (but I won't disclose any details :) ).

One month ago I went to Skt Petersburg to see her. An hotel was already booked and she had pay for it, some 10 K rubles. She could not welcome me in her flat because she's renting one room with other people. We went to the flat once, because she had to pick up something, and I met her roommates, a man and a woman.

During the first couple days I had no rubles, only pounds that I needed changed, and we were always in a hurry so I did not pay anything : she paid for restaurants, for the car's fuel (apparently that's her own) etc. Then I changed the money and I paid for everything, pretty much like a married man would do with his wife, the thing is, we are not married :) We had dinner at one of her friend's, was pretty nice (except for vodka, how can they drink this ?? ). It looked pretty much allright cause it seemed like we shared the expenses on an equal level.

Then I went back to London. The next day via webcam she complained that I did not give her money for the hotel, that she would not raise the problem again, but that men have to pay for expenses, while women are taking care of babies and cooking. This is a bit of a caricature, but you get the picture. So I made a suggestion about sending her the money, and she accepted. Haven't send anything yet, though.

I was reading the post http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4229t by Marisa, where she says
I am also a Russian woman who married an American, and I didn't take a penny from him until we were officially married.
So I'd like to be able to say the same about Olga, but as you see it is not the case.

I'm wondering wether this lady is a pro-scammer or not. Many things appear quite real, we can chat almost everyday on the webcam, I had proofs that she was really working for the company she pretends, I have a copy of her passport that shows what she said is real, about name etc, I talked with her friends... BTW she speaks quite a good english. But it really bothers me is that I have to send her money now. At first, when she paid for the hotel I was happy because it seemed like a reasonable proof of her good intentions...imagine my surprise when she spoke about money...There was no "shopping" involved though, I did not pay for cloths or perfume -except the one I bought @ the duty free shop :)

Now she wants to come to England in January, and she asked me to pay for the plane, telling me she does not make lots of money, and she can't afford it. If I don't pay, she'll stay in Russia with friends, she says.

Would you consider this as normal behaviour ? Am I being too suspicious ? Should it be considered as normal that I pay for everything when we are together, and for the ticket plane ?

Thanks for your advice,

Charlie
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Re: Never send money means never or sometimes ?

Postby jenmacinok on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:12 am

There's a difference between sending someone $$ who U have nvr met and someone U are really dating. She doesn't sound like a scammer to me. However, since she has told U her feelings abt money and dating, and U are still seeing her, then what do U expect? U need to be as open with her as she has been with U... tell her the man paying for everything isn't a modern idea, and it isn't what U are used to. I think U should have been friend enough to offer to pay for 1/2 of the hotel tho, since U stayed there too. I am a generous person... however I don't want to be with someone who takes it for granted that I will spend my $$ on them. She should wait for U to offer. Treat her fairly and let her know that's what U expect... if she doesnt like it... she doesnt have to continue seeing her.
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Re: Never send money means never or sometimes ?

Postby Charlot on Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:19 pm

Yeah, you're probably right. But is it a way of thinking in Russia, that men have to pay for everything ?
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Re: Never send money means never or sometimes ?

Postby Marisa on Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:00 am

if you are taking a woman out for a date - yes, you are supposed to pay.
but to pay her bills and buy her stuff - no.
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