Jeff Miller, astonishedman@live.com, part 1

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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby Kizzy on Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:32 am

He sent her a new photo, I keep asking her to email these photos to me so I can show you all. She's still planning to meet him in NY and still thinks he could be real.
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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby FrumpyBB on Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:40 am

Typical excuses for no-show: robbed at airport; missing paperwork; sudden illness; kid´s sudden illness; accident; contract troubles.
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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby SlapHappy on Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:26 am

She is going to be disappointed at the airport, and perhaps crushed if she finally realizes that is a scam all the way. Try to be there for her, and try to convince her again to drop him completely. He will go so far as to cry on the phone, beg, accuse her of not loving her, and then even threaten her if she does not send the money. It's all an act, and they are good at faking real emotions.
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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby Kizzy on Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:01 pm

They haven't spoken on the phone. He's apparently going back to the USA in the coming week and she has told him he has to send her new photos and buy a webcam that works. She's giving him way more chances than I would but I think she's so in denial ad blinded by the 'love' that she wants it to be real. She's begun refusing to tell me things, she sees it as me trying to control her, not help her, so I'm backing off. Thank you for all your help though, I'll update again if anything more eventuates.
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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby red zora on Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:06 pm

Do not give up.....Tell her what could happen short time at the meantime until he will arrive the airport

accident on the way to the airport because of that an doctor/friend/lawyer will send her an email requesting money for emergency operation before they can not do this, lost his wallet, he can not pay the BTA (BTA is bullshit doesn't exist), son/daughter gets ill requesting money for OP, he can not pay any tax to leave the country, has no access to his bank accout to get money for the flight, robbed


Just to metion the most common reason WHY they not can come over.

Tell her about before one of the things will "happen" to him...play some kind of oracle ;)

She is deep on the hook and very hard to convince her but once she will appreciate your help. ;)
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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby Ruffled Feathers on Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:35 pm

Kizzy -

You are doing a great job with your friend and what she needs now is for you to step in and REALLY explain to her, that she will be stood up at the airport, he will be a no-show. This will hurt her even more. I don't know how you can do it, but you have to convince her to come online with this support group and see for herself, that this love is actually non-existant. It is not real, the only thing that is real is her bank account and that's what he wants.

Keep talking to her, she might get angry with you for awhile, but when she realizes the actual truth behind this low-life, she will thank you - I guarantee that.

We are all here to help and support you and your friend, both of you can post either in the area called the Healing Process or come into the Chat Room, just know there are alot of people on this site who are ready to help.

Take care of yourself and take care of your friend.

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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby duckhunter on Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:13 pm

Kizzy, though the advice RF gave you is excellent, I'm leaning toward you clamming up, especially about romancescam.com and the advice you receive here. The fact that she won't tell you things now makes me believe that she's sharing the info you give her with the scammer. The last thing we want to do is educate him and cause his tactics to mutate away from the usual, which puts both your friend and others at greater risk.

At this point, you might just want to tell her 'he won't arrive, and the reason will be one of many stupid excuses'. You can even write them down, seal the envelope, then show it to her next week. See how well they match up. When the inevitable happens, then you might point her back here. Hopefully by then she will be ready to listen.

You're a great friend and she's lucky to have you. But some of just have to learn our lessons the hard way. Please don't ever think you didn't do enough.
Help us keep scammers stupid Post his details here to warn others, then walk away without explanation. Confrontation alerts scammers & makes them change their identities...which makes all your hard work outdated. It messes with their minds if they don't know why you walked away.
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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby Pinky on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:31 am

I'm with Duckie on this one. My advice to others at this point has always been back off. You make her mad, you alienate her and she digs in deeper with the scammer. Yes she tells him what you say. Yes he coerces her to cut off friendships and caring family. Plus he learns his enemy's (us) tactics. If she cuts herself off from you, she's going to be too humiliated when he doesn't show, to come back and say, "You were right." I hope it's not too late already.

Fact is, he's not going to show. Ever. She will get it eventually. You've planted enough seeds of doubt and she's been scammed before, so I am willing to bet she's not going to send him money. If you can get her back to listen to her when she needs your support, that is what she's going to need next; your shoulder to cry on.

Just tell her, "I am real, I am here, I love you, I will be here for you when you need me."
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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby Kizzy on Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:01 am

That's exactly why I'm backing off. She's already told me she's questioned him on certain things like saying 'am' instead of I am etc. He's meant to be flying home to NY today, I already told her that I bet he doesn't go back there or something happens and he has to return to Ghana.
Earlier today she got me to chat to a guy she knows who was demanding money from her, she apparently told him that I had her key card so she couldn't do anything. He was demanding I give it back to her and she go on cam with it to prove she has it. I called him some lovely names and was quite nasty. His name is David Carl (I think) The yahoo he was using was one he'd made up especially for her as it had both their names in it. She was laughing at it all saying she's playing with him but I don't know why she doesn't just block him since she knows he's a scammer. I know what it's like to crave positive attention from men after being mistreated but there has to be a better way than this :(
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Re: Jeff Miller, astonishedman@live.com

Postby JJ2511 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:55 pm

Back again for give more detail:

To: The One I Love With All My Heart
From: Dave Miller (dave_miller57@yahoo.com)
Date: Dec 22, 2554 9:48:19
To:


Honey....... If I speak in the tongues of mortals and of angels, but do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.......And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.......If I give away all my possessions, and if I hand over my body so that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.......Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth.......It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.......Love never ends. But as for prophecies, they will come to an end; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will come to an end.......For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end......When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways.......For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face.......Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known........And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love........


Honey......I Love you and i will forever love you, and i will do anything to protect the love i have for you.....But you are not believing my love and hope i gave to you, and you never believe that everything i told you about me is the truth and nothing but the truth.....Honey, i gave you every reason to believe and Trust my love but all you do is to allow Friends to deceive you of doubting my love for you Honey.......I respect people with self esteem I enjoy working, I am also good at planning ahead for the future, am positive fun loving person, who wants to meet a nice lady whom I can make the mother of my son.....I am a caring, loving easy going person that has a lot of love and care to give........I am looking for a lady who is importantly a down to heart, who is honest faithful and prepared to share my love life and make something special happen and i believe i found the Mrs Right for my self and i was very happy That the Lord gave me you as my loving wife......And i pray that he who gave me you will surely make me enjoy you and touch your heart for me so that you can love me just exactly the way i love you and care about you my lovely JJ.....JJ, i pray to God to change your heart for me so that you can love me as i always loved you.....JJ, please just add me back to your Skype list so that we can talk all this out okay my love......

Hope to hear from you soon my lovely JJ......Pls try and call Alex so that he can come online and we chat as one okay my love JJ.....By For Now....Love You and Miss you so badly......

David .G. Miller
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Re: Jeff Miller, astonishedman@live.com

Postby FrumpyBB on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:19 pm

^^Same scammer with diff. pic set split to here: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=44157&p=237041#p237041
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Re: Jeff Miller, astonishedman@live.com

Postby JJ2511 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:53 pm

More :
Father And Son Pic‏
From: Dave Miller (dave_miller57@yahoo.com)
Date: Dec 17,2554 17:24:50
To:

Hello my sweet Honey........Net got bad here and i have to go to the radio room to invigilate my boys in there but I'm back now and you where not online.........For all the Generals you are having please be very careful the way you get close to them please........and keep to your promise not to talk to them please my love cos i don't want to lose you to any body OK my love.......and please our marriage is one David to only JJ & is one JJ to David.....,.....I Love You My Love JJ.........so, talking about Alex.......Honey i want you to send Alex money but i don't know how much you can Afford cos I'm not in your pocket to know how much you have but i will be very Grateful if you can help me with this just for him to be happy till we 3 will be together in the Thailand so that we can invest and be hundred percent rich just for the family you know........but honey, i want you to borrow not for dash please so that he can pay for debt's they fight him for everyday........he forward pictures to my email box where they fought him i think is because of money please i just want you to borrow me a token amount of $1,500usd to clear is debt and buy things for Christmas and is Birthday please i will refund that and you will have to write to this Barrister on how we can obtain a Marriage Certificate from the High Court Of Justice so that we can have this done from the UK for a proper UK Government Endorsement.......after endorsing the marriage certificate it will make you have a citizenship in United State Of America cos you are married to a General in the US. Military......also can give you after our marriage a Green card to Travel all over the World without any stop other from any body.........I Love You Very much Honey......and i will always Love You till death do us part.......Honey, i don't know if you have any estate Agents in your area to ask for a more suitable apartment for us to buy cos i can't stay with you and Alex in that room so please you have to look for an apartment a Solid one please.......that will have 6 bedrooms and 2 parlous in it with Swimming pool too please and please we just have to play matured and don't disclose any issue we discuss to any body cos of security purpose please i mean everything should be made confidential please......Honey, One Love Keep Us Together, and so shall it be forever and ever....."AMEN"......


So this are the Information you need for Alex to get money below::


You will go to any Western Union Around you and Remit money to this Name Below.....


Name: Michael Erikene
Location: Accra, Ghana




And this is the Barrister Email Id: <alexanderlawchamber@hotmail.com> Barrister John Alexander .........


NB: Please if you have any problem in writing the email to my Barrister please don't fail to ask me OK My Love, i will be here at all time to check if you have back online again....And i have my Attachment of my Picture in this messages and please don't forget to come back online OK......
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From: Dave Miller (dave_miller57@yahoo.com)
Date: Dec 17,2554 17:39:03
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Honey.....don't forget to send the information to Alex mobile phone after you sent ok my love......you text him the followings information to Alex mobile phone.........


Your Name :
Text Quest :
And Answer :
Mtcn Pin :

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After this e-mail. I'm search more about his detail and find this web. and stop contact him. Last e-mail he back again but sorry I want contact with scammer and not yet fall to his victime. Thanks for this web :mrgreen:


From: Dave Miller (dave_miller57@yahoo.com)
Date: Mach 21, 2555 1:44:23
ถึง:

Its hard to know that the person you missed so much didn’t even miss you, but i miss you…every time your gone…i miss you…every-time i don’t have your call…i miss you….every-time and every-night your not by my side…...It’s hard to say I miss you because you were never here with me. It’s hard to say I love you because you were never mine. But through everything you were my best friend, my life, my soul-mate.....Even though we both realize we should be, it’s not too late my Queen.....I hate missing people because they stay on your mind till you see them again and even when you see them again and they leave you still miss them like crazy .......missing you like CRAZY….i just wish u knew HOW MUCH….(its killing me inside every-time i think about u)......Missing you is like missing everything......please dont make me wait just cause you know i will......knowing you dont see me the same way i see you..shatters me...ohh no sweetie..you didnt hurt me,you completely destroyed me, and don't forget With my sword i can fight, with my shield i can defend but with out my shield i am vulnerable like without you i am nothing…..Every time i watch birds pass by, they remind me of you passing by. Every moment that we’ve spent, every memories that we’ve shared i miss you every second, every minute, every hour, every day, every moment.....I Miss You So Much My Queen.....pls call me if you see this message, I Love You Deep Down From My Heart....


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- Carter F.ham(carterf.h889)
- Dennis Barnett(barnett1958)
- general.john.allen.56
- genmichaeldbarber01
- it.col_smith47
- Major General Myles Deering(major.general.myles.deering)

Please be careful, I thought David_miller and them they are same.
They are come want I add them on the time I'm contact with David _miller. OK I add them but not chat with them.
Sometime, I'm online Skype David_miller not online but another person on top online, David_miller will online Immediate!! It's mean he used another name for check who he contact with.

Wish my post can save others, This is I give back to this web,Thanks lots to all person who post in here.
Who can tell ??? Ivory Express or alexanderlawchamber@hotmail.com it's real???
IN www. Ivory I was visited that web. It's look strange no detail about company for normal company,sample address or phone number to contact only contact from web. Because for normal company they are must show more detail but all thing there not clear. :roll:
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Jones Williams, wjones29@ymail.com

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Name: Jones Williams
Age: 50 (Jun 29, 1961)
Gender: Male
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State/Region: New York
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Re: I think my friend is being scammed

Postby red zora on Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:41 pm

Von: McDaniel Miller dan_luv1@live.com
An:
Datum: 29. März 2012 12:06
Betreff: RE: Hello
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McDaniel Miller dan_luv1@live.com

12:06 (vor 2 Stunden)

an mich
am doing great and how about you..can you send me a picture of your self and let get to know much about each other....

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Scott Miller, scott.miller2011@att.net

Postby Bix on Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:58 pm

person.com/personals.phtml?user_id=5936141
USER ID: 5936141
Nickname: Miller
Name: Scott
Age: 46 (Aug 9, 1965)
Gender: Male
Country: United States
State/Region: Illinois
City: Chicago
More about myself: Well I will like to tell u that am a Sensitive Man,Am Honest,Kind,Caring, and Truthfull..I seek for a true and Serious relattionship that will last forever..You r so lovely....I don't play games and I am looking for a serious relationship with marriage being the ultimate goal!
What I am seeking is a woman as laid out in Proverbs 39. A woman who is strong (but not overbearing), loyal, respectful, kind and sweet. That carry her self like the queen she is in all situations. That arouse my intellect as well as physical desires. Looking for a that somebody that I can share my entire self with. Somebody that is not afraid to be loved as well express love..I seek for a Serious and Long term relationship,Someone I can spend the rest of my Life with. Pls if you looking for my money dont email me or try to chat with me okay..


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Hello Angel,
I am more than glad to hear back from you, i may want to start by telling you i really appreciate your prompt response,. how is family and how is work? i really would want you to know some few points about me I am single once married i lost my wife some years back ,Am from virginia,Warrenton USA. I find very much peace and tranquility here, stop working after the death of my Wife but now into business just started month ago am into importing Anitique and textile fabric from Canada to Australia got to London 3 days ago it pretty good here in London,UK just looking for the right woman to spend the rest of my life with and can offer me nothing less than a divine and pure love which only leads to a path filled with happiness and joy,Distance, age and tribe doesnt reflect on a man like me i mean if it were based on numbers,"never will a younger man look at an older man and say, you look beautiful, even in the presence of noticeable wrinkles, or who says that there isnt beauty beyond the skin, it doesnt take physical beauty to get a woman to say you look good at the earliest point in the
i would have boarded a train lol. i will be back to virginia,Warrenton USA in 2 weeks time just looking for the righ one before i get back to USA .i moved to virginia,Warrenton USA when my parent passed to meet my uncle who is into Antique business in 1980 got married in the same year. Now virginia,Warrenton USA so i can just say i lived all my life in virginia cause i had my kids and got married with over here, About my kids ,i have 2 kids Tine and Jerry the kids were so young when i lost their mother in an auto crash,Andrea was a friend to me, more than a lover, she is mother more than a Father, a daughter more than a sister.She was the best of my friends., I thought life would end there, only did i need to be reminded that the fact that something good ends doesnt mean a better thing isnt about to start. I will always say after the death of my My wife that i will never get my self into any relationship but i just thought i cant look after the kids all my self and i need some one i can call my wife,life without a woman is worthless and i always say when the time comes i only need to do it once again and i would know the right woman by looking straight into her eyes,to let you know this if chemistry occour between us you will be the last and second woman i will ever marry , life is too short, how long can a man live without happiness from a good home he builds? So you should know i am not one man any distance would hold back for the sake of love, i havent dated since my wife passed. My mother had similar pains when i was young too and lost my dad...I`m 5.7" 165 with a athletic build ,Am a man who is mentally stable, physically fit, a bunch of laughs, warm, caring, honest, good listening, God Fearing, and a positive person.I am real easy person to talk to and a good listener. I love to play golf and I enjoy chillin` with my kids , I like going to the movies , or watching movies in my room , I like swiming , fishing, listening to music and dance to any kind of music, traveling , going bowling and also a good cook.I am a family oriented person and There is more.
Am here winking at you from a distance.....lol.
Scott Miller..

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