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Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby Gigs on Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:55 am

Got this today, anybody elce get this??
The link needs work and when I backspaced it together & tried after I thought I fixed it, I only got half a page.??? :thinking:

From: "IMJody" <jody13901@yahoo.com>Add sender to ContactsTo: romancescams@yahoogroups.com Check out this new development!
> >
> > Moneygram has recently been fined $18 million for a victim's redress program for allowing scams to happen and turning their head the other way. This money will be distributed to scamming victims who have done the 2 steps listed below. At this point, exactly how the money is going to be distributed has not been decided but if you don't file, you don't have a chance. If you used Moneygram to send money to a scammer please make sure you do the following steps:
> >
> > 1. File a complaint report with Moneygram
> > 2. Contact the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) Consumers interested in the process of redress administration should call 202-326-3755.
> >
> > Here is the link that explains the current ruling against Moneygram:
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> > http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/10/moneygram.shtm <-- :thinking:
> > (safe link)
> >
> > I cannot stress enough how big a development this may be. Moneygram is the second largest funds transferring company in the US. It is very important that you make your losses count and let the FTC know!!
> > hugs-
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby wayne on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:03 pm

I've fixed the link for you :)
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby The Wild Geese on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:13 pm

Hurrah!!!!!! :applause: One miracle for the victims! $18 million dollars is just a drop in the sea for the amount that these devils looted from their victims. But anyway better than nothing at all. Hope WU will be the next to get fine and $18 million is not a big deal at all.
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby didi on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:18 pm

That will help for people in US, but what about all victims from other countries? Isn't there an e-mail address for Federal Trade Commission to use for foreign citicens?
I don't speak English well enough to be able to call. It is one thing to write but totally different to talk.
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby wayne on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:42 pm

Also, prepare for the scammers to start sending out emails claiming to be MG and offering your money back for a "small processing fee".
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby didi on Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:05 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/BROKER/i ... 0720091020
WASHINGTON, Oct 20 (Reuters) - MoneyGram International (MGI.N) will pay $18 million dollars to settle charges it turned a blind eye to fraud perpetrated by people who used the money transfer company to receive funds, the Federal Trade Commission said on Tuesday.

The FTC said that, between 2004 and 2008, MoneyGram employees worked with "fraudulent telemarketers and other con artists" who scammed U.S. consumers out of more than $84 million, the FTC said in a statement.

The money was sent within the United States and to Canada, the FTC said.

"Many of defendant's Canadian agents that have received fraud-induced money transfers from U.S. consumers and paid out such transfers to the fraudulent telemarketers have either been active or complicit participants in the underlying scams," the FTC said in court documents.


What is written here does not say anything about african love scammers.
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby On A Mission on Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:27 pm

I just don't get it or did I miss something? The article mentioned 84 million dollars within the USA and to Canada lost to counterfeit checks, lottery or prize schemes, guaranteed loans and mystery shopping. Does romance scamming fall into any of these topics and I am sure that all of these scams are pretty much world wide. I also don't understand why this is just hitting the media now.
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby Gigs on Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:17 am

Yes it does fall into it OAM, Your Scamster writes you and yous are in love, they need a check cashed, they send it to you , you cash it, and you keep some for your troubles, & or when they get there to be with you there will be some for exspences ect.ect. . But in General its good start and nice to know that MG got slapped with a 18 mil FINE pay out for turning a blind eye to it for the al mighty $$$$$ ;) !!!!
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby The Wild Geese on Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:45 am

When it comes to this $18 million pot intended to be given back to the victims, I am afraid that most of Romance Scam victims will fall in the last part of the priority list. As what the Police officer told me when I was in UK, I have no case to file against my scammer because there was no crime done. The situation was, I engaged myself to a relationship with a person. He asked me money and I gave it to him with my own will. Just like any other relationship, things can go wrong. My story can be different from the other victims so I'm not generalizing the outcome of recovering the money back. So, on my part I know that recovering a part of my money is microscopic. If there will be any, I will give all my share willingly to other victims who needed it more than I do. I am not a rich person but I know there are many who needed it more than I do.
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby didi on Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:34 am

It is exactly the same with me as with The Wild Geese. I don't think it is possible for persons outside US to recover money from MoneyGram. I don't even think I will try, even if I acually filed to the police in my country. They put it down as unable to proof as the crime took place in another country.
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby Gigs on Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:57 pm

Try the 2 steps she talks about there in the post Didi,

1. File a complaint report with Moneygram
2. Contact the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) Consumers interested in the process of redress administration should call 202-326-3755.

Maybe you wont get one red cent back and then again ,maybe you will. If you don't try you won't thats for sure !!

Thanks for squeezing the link together Wayne !! :)
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Re: Moneygram is fined $18 Mil.

Postby didi on Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:48 pm

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As I said above I am not able to talk about such things in English, it demands words I don't even know about. If I can do it by e-mail it is okay, but not by calling. I don't know how to write a complaint report - or where to find a form, so I have given up the thought itself.
I am happy if american citicens will be able to get money back.
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