Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

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Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby sasay on Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:42 pm

Hi everyone, I've recently been contacted by some guys from hi 5. After exchanging some mails with them, many things they said just didn't add up. So I decided to google and luckily I found HERE! :D I've read many stories posted in this site and found that these guys' stories are all very similar: lost his wife or got divorced, being a single parent, one of his parents died and they are all engineers! I've corresponded with this guy, the one so-called Fred Williams for some time. He claims to be a marine welding engineer, his wife died in a car accident, left a son who is 15 years old now. He said his father was American and his mother is Italian. He even had his son write to me. But his son's English is so poor...even poorer than mine (since I'm not a native speaker of English.) And this is the first red flag for me. When I asked him why his 15-year-old son's English is not that good, his explanation was that not all Americans who can speak good English are able to write good English! :liar: Oh, he said he's currently in the UK and he gave me his phone number. And it starts with +4470! We also spoke on the phone and his accent is really strange... then the last red flag is his IP. He said he's in Liverpool but his IP shows he's in Malaysia! :mrgreen:
He hasn't started to mention the money issue yet. I'm wondering when he's gonna bring it up...

Below is his IP Header

Received: from [110.159.140.204] by web121106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP;
X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524
From: Fred Williams <williamsf50@yahoo.com>


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These are photos of him, his son and his mom:
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His phone number: 447017026186
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby sasay on Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:45 pm

I forgot to say this guy contacted me on Tagged. He still has his profile on there.

http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid= ... =0&fpa=pic
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby FrumpyBB on Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:34 pm

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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby sasay on Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:45 pm

Thank you, Frumpy BB, for posting his profile photo here. :)

Actually there's another one I'm suspicious of. He claims he's in London but his IP shows he's in Malaysia. However, the mobile number he gave starts with +4478 which is supposed to be a genuine UK number based on the information I googled. Any suggestion about how to deal with this one? Thanks a lot in advance!
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby sasay on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:40 pm

I googled his number and got a hit!

http://phonenotes.org/447857985145

Now I can be sure he's a scammer, right? :thinking:

Should I post his info in this thread or open a new one?
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby red zora on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:41 pm

447017026186 is a internet redirect number. Numbers with 4470.... are NO real UK phone numbers and very expensive to call. Internet redirect number means he got the number from the internet and if you call the number your call would be redirected to his phone so he can be on all places of the world but NOT in the UK. Because of this phone number your post is still in the open forum and of course because of the IP.

Would you like to post his first 3 or 4 emails/messages to you just to get his script. (edit out your private details BEFORE you push "submit")
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby red zora on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:42 pm

sasay wrote:I googled his number and got a hit!

http://phonenotes.org/447857985145

Now I can be sure he's a scammer, right? :thinking:

Should I post his info in this thread or open a new one?

From where does this number come from?

By the way, do not forget to post the emailaddress of his "son" ;)
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby sasay on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:53 pm

red zora wrote:447017026186 is a internet redirect number. Numbers with 4470.... are NO real UK phone numbers and very expensive to call. Internet redirect number means he got the number from the internet and if you call the number your call would be redirected to his phone so he can be on all places of the world but NOT in the UK. Because of this phone number your post is still in the open forum.

Would you like to post his first 3 or 4 emails/messages to you just to get his script. (edit out your private details BEFORE you push "submit")


Sure, below are some of his messages he sent on tagged:

The first one:
Hi i'm Fred Williams from NY, i view your profile and decide to write to you cuz you look very pretty and gentle, i want us to be friends hope you will give me a chance for us to know more.


The 2nd one:
Hi
how are you doing and your days how is it going hope all is moving fine with you,, thanks is my pleasure that you accept me as a friend to your life.... if you don't mind I will like to know a little about you, your marital status and how many kids you have, your name in full, your level of education, your age, your country of birth and the country where you currently live.


The 3rd one:
Nice reading from you, i will like to have your email address so i can write u an email to tell you more about myself and to also add you for a chat online sometimes since i have gotten a reply from you needless for me to be singing in here i pray it will work out well for us ... i will wait to hear from you soon hope you don't mind. till then do take care of yourself.

sincerely
fred.


The 4th one:
Hello,
Thanks for the responds I appreciate it, despite your busy times you still make our time to write to me. I hope that you will be serious with me? I did not contact you for us to be chat mates or become fun mates on Face book, but I write to you for a reason. Which of course you know I am looking for a soul mate and there is a reason why I chose to go for country ladies;
I am 6fit 1inch weight 190lbs, naturally brown hair but now I decide to apply some cream to make its black hairs due to some white hairs that are now coming up. I have a brown eyes and an athletic body. A catholic from a humble family and I am family oriented. I hope and wish that you will give me a chance for us for to be very close friends that by the grace of God will lead to a better level which is a long lasting relationship. My hobbies are dancing, swimming, reading inspirational books, going for bowling and having a walk with my love one.
I am not looking at the nature of your job, or your outlook, or how tall or shot your might be, or your beauty. But what I am look at and being interested on is the heart that bears all this things. That is my aim and goal just the heart. the qualities you posses and how much love you have for God.... tell me about the kind of a man you wish or dream to have as a soul mate, tell me how many men you have being into relationship with before and present over there, tell me the nature of your job and your position, tell me about your daily activities? What about your family are they living there with you? I will like to know the reason why you were being divorced? I just want you to be yourself and be it the original. Because I hate a pretender; I think I have to hang up here take good care of yourself and have a fabulous time always.
Sincerely
Fred.
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby sasay on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:55 pm

red zora wrote:
sasay wrote:I googled his number and got a hit!

http://phonenotes.org/447857985145

Now I can be sure he's a scammer, right? :thinking:

Should I post his info in this thread or open a new one?

From where does this number come from?


The number was given to me by the guy. We even talked on the phone. Well, he does sound British to me, but I can't be 100% sure since English is not my first language.
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby red zora on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:56 pm

Thank you :)
By the way, do not forget to post the emailaddress of his "son" ;)
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby red zora on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:59 pm

Everybody who gives to you a number with 4470.... at the beginning is ALWAYS a scammer ;)
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby sasay on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:03 pm

red zora wrote:Thank you :)
By the way, do not forget to post the emailaddress of his "son" ;)


Ah, right! Hehe, his son's IP is also in Malaysia. :D

From David Williams Tue Jun 5 05:02:31 2012
Return-Path: <davidwilliams403@yahoo.com>
Received-SPF: none (domain of yahoo.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)

X-Originating-IP: [98.138.91.211]
Authentication-Results: mta1493.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=pass (ok); from=yahoo.com; dkim=pass (ok)
Received: from 127.0.0.1 (HELO nm23-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.91.211)
by mta1493.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:02:34 -0700
Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2012 12:02:31 -0000
Received: from [98.138.86.157] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2012 12:02:31 -0000
Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2012 12:02:31 -0000
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 720431.2140.bm@omp1015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Received: (qmail 73294 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jun 2012 12:02:31 -0000
Received: from [110.159.140.204] by web125101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:02:31 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524
References: <1336516267.7508.YahooMailNeo@web125104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1336549336.76523.YahooMailNeo@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1338284947.71503.YahooMailNeo@web125101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1338389388.60983.YahooMailNeo@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1338542355.65043.YahooMailNeo@web125106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1338628911.83058.YahooMailNeo@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1338897751.5192.YahooMailNeo@web125101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 05:02:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Williams <davidwilliams403@yahoo.com>
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby red zora on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:05 pm

nice done, thank you :)
Block him and leave him without an word. No conversation anymore ;)
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby sasay on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:13 pm

red zora wrote:nice done, thank you :)


My pleasure. I just hope that people won't be deceived or hurt by those scumbags anymore!
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Re: Fred Williams williamsf50@yahoo.com

Postby sasay on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:20 pm

red zora wrote:nice done, thank you :)
Block him and leave him without an word. No conversation anymore ;)


Actually, I haven't heard from him (Fred) for 3-4 days. He used to write back to me within two days. Maybe he's suspicious of me now as well. :thinking:
Now there's this other guy (the one I mentioned whose phone number seems to be genuine) trying to contact me. I am wondering maybe they are working together. After all, they are all in Malaysia! :P
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